I’m really disappointed with these lights; they look good from a style perspective but the level of light they produce is poor for a ceiling light. We have two in our living room - we still need the lamps on to produce sufficient light and the light from the LED clashes with the warmer light from the lamps - so they’re basically redundant. We’ve had them installed now, and don’t feel we can take them down to return- they’ll just have to be decorative 😕